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One of the things “serious” craps players have always liked about the Axis Power Craps forum is the fact that I post my trip reports “warts and all.” That means when I have a losing trip I talk about it. I also encourage forum members to do. Forum » Gambling. Craps is a dinosaur in terms of operation costs. 2 dealers, stickman, boxman to man 1 table. If it wasn't for tradition and player outrage.

I played an individual craps machine ...

This is most interesting. I hope some other WoV member can give details about the machine itself.
I was going to send a 'thank you.' Then, I saw that this is your first post. Thank you. And welcome to WoV.

I played an individual craps machine at the 'Strat' the last time I was in Vegas. I just saw a Youtube video that they are now also downtown at 'The D'.

The Don’t Pass For Dummies 4.0,
the video created by BigAZ Craps Guru
a big time hedge player and loser that claims he is a GURU and a... (lifetime winner)
ok
mentions interblock in the video (not the folks that make shoot to win craps)
as to other installs or trials in Vegas
I know of no others as of today
that can easily changeI haven’t seen it yet, but I’ll tell you where I’d play it if I saw it:
McCarran!

Casino floor is all about maximizing profit. These games at 1.41% house edge are not nearly as profitable as traditional slots...but are installed for diversity. Craps players bring wives, spouses, girlfriends (or boyfriends) who may partake in other higher profit games. I'm hoping to see more of these single seat stations.

Blackjack and craps with live dealers requires open space, lights and surveillance cameras galore. Any floor plan analyst will be happy to put a 1.41% machine in a nook or cranny rather than devoting prime floor space to it,
That way the need for variety is met by using sub-prime floor space somewhat distant from the primary ebb and flow corridors.

Casino floor is all about maximizing profit. These games at 1.41% house edge are not nearly as profitable as traditional slots...but are installed for diversity. Craps players bring wives, spouses, girlfriends (or boyfriends) who may partake in other higher profit games. I'm hoping to see more of these single seat stations. As noted, as of today I believe it's the Strat and D for now.

I worry about craps, especially with the proliferation of the bubble machines. Offhand the game seems bulletproof; casinos might tweak it by adding new high HE side bets, but the core game (with it's payouts) remains the same regardless of whether you're playing at the Wynn or Whiskey Pete's.
In this age of watered down pay tables, 6:5 blackjack and triple 0 roulette, however, what's to stop them from changing the line odds to 9:5, 7:5, 7:6, and changing the place odds to 5:3, 4:3, 8:7? You could argue that since craps is a game that takes some time to learn, the players will easily spot the change leading to an angry revolt, and you might be right ... but that doesn't mean they won't try.TDVegas

I worry about craps, especially with the proliferation of the bubble machines. Offhand the game seems bulletproof; casinos might tweak it by adding new high HE side bets, but the core game (with it's payouts) remains the same regardless of whether you're playing at the Wynn or Whiskey Pete's.
In this age of watered down pay tables, 6:5 blackjack and triple 0 roulette, however, what's to stop them from changing the line odds to 9:5, 7:5, 7:6, and changing the place odds to 5:3, 4:3, 8:7? You could argue that since craps is a game that takes some time to learn, the players will easily spot the change leading to an angry revolt, and you might be right ... but that doesn't mean they won't try.

They have already watered down the ATS bet in many casinos. It's possible. In this environment...I wouldn't be surprised with anything the casinos do to increase their hold.
Craps is a dinosaur in terms of operation costs. 2 dealers, stickman, boxman to man 1 table. If it wasn't for tradition and player outrage....the game would have been retired or they would come up with alternatives. Bubble craps.
If it was any other business product in terms of cost to operate....it would be in a museum. It stil makes money, obviously....but it's a rotary phone in a world of technology advancement and how many employees it takes to operate. Think of the 1950's when 4 guys at a gas station would surround your vehicle to pump gas, clean the windshield, check the oil and put air in your tires.
I really have no idea if craps popularity is waning or changing. Electronic craps won't help the cause of table craps. Aruze has installed 3 or 4 Roll to Win Craps tables. Traditional size table. 1 stickman. Bets are made on individual player touchscreen and the table surface is some type of proprietary LCD screen. Looks like an electronic pinball with bets 'zapping' to their numbers. Players roll regulation dice just like traditional craps....1 employee to run the game.

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